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Topic: Greg Pierce on Weblog Calendars

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Author: Seth Dillingham

Date:5/16/2002

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# 2078

Greg Pierce on Weblog Calendars

This morning, Greg and I were discussing the positioning of calendars on some of Macrobyte's product news pages. I thought they belonged in the navbar (see the AttSearchEngine's news page, for example), and asked why he put them at the bottom of the page.

His explanation was so convincing that not only do I now agree with him, but I suggested he write it up. Now I have to move this journal's calendar, too. It'll be interesting to see if more people find their way around the site as a result.

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Author: Mark Morgan

Date:5/16/2002

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# 2079

Re: Greg Pierce on Weblog Calendars

It seems to me this is an argument against date-based navigation, in favor
of topic-based navigation for weblogs. The default templates for Moveable
Type don't use a calendar--it has a list of the most recent message titles
in a sidebar.

This would be possible in Conversant using a combination of RSS and the
WeblogView Page Type (http://support.free-conversant.com/docs/Pages/weblogView).

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Author: Brian Carnell

Date:5/16/2002

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RE: Greg Pierce on Weblog Calendars

At 08:35 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, Mark wrote:

>It seems to me this is an argument against date-based navigation, in favor
>of topic-based navigation for weblogs. The default templates for Moveable
>Type don't use a calendar--it has a list of the most recent message titles
>in a sidebar.

Good summary. Date-based navigation just doesn't work for general sites. I
think that Greg's site for his kids (who are very cute, btw) is an example
of where a date-based system makes sense, but for general sites, who
actually uses the calendar to go back more than a few days?

>This would be possible in Conversant using a combination of RSS and the
>WeblogView Page Type
>(http://support.free-conversant.com/docs/Pages/weblogView).

I would create an AQP page to return the last 10 message titles, set the
cache to 60 minutes, create a template with an insertquery macro and then
insert that sub-template into the main template page, say in a right hand
column.

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Author: Mark Morgan

Date:5/16/2002

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RE: Greg Pierce on Weblog Calendars


> I would create an AQP page to return the last 10 message titles, set the
>
> cache to 60 minutes, create a template with an insertquery macro and
> then
> insert that sub-template into the main template page, say in a right
> hand
> column.
This would only work if *all* the top-level topics are also part of the
weblog. There's currently no way to filter for "These messages are also
posted at weblog X".

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Author: Brian Carnell

Date:5/16/2002

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RE: Greg Pierce on Weblog Calendars

At 09:15 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, Mark wrote:

>This would only work if *all* the top-level topics are also part of the
>weblog. There's currently no way to filter for "These messages are also
>posted at weblog X".

True. Create a Custom Field called Weblog and assign each weblog message
the name of the weblog(s) it is posted to.

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Author: Mark Morgan

Date:5/16/2002

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RE: Greg Pierce on Weblog Calendars

Do custom fields work in the weblog plugin? I forget.

--- Brian Carnell <brian@carnell.com> wrote:
> http://www.truerwords.net/2082
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> At 09:15 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, Mark wrote:
>
> >This would only work if *all* the top-level topics are also part of the
> >weblog. There's currently no way to filter for "These messages are also
> >posted at weblog X".
>
> True. Create a Custom Field called Weblog and assign each weblog message
>
> the name of the weblog(s) it is posted to.
>
>
>


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Mark Morgan: mark_morgan@yahoo.com
http://www.VoicesOfUnreason.com "obeisances before the written word"
CS Lewis: "We read to know we're not alone."

__________________________________________________
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Author: Brian Carnell

Date:5/16/2002

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RE: Greg Pierce on Weblog Calendars

At 09:32 PM 5/16/2002 -0400, Mark wrote:

>Do custom fields work in the weblog plugin? I forget.

No. (I always create messages by using __NewThread__ and then assign them
to weblogs).

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Author: Seth Dillingham

Date:5/16/2002

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# 2085

RE: Greg Pierce on Weblog Calendars

On 5/16/02, Mark Morgan said:

>Do custom fields work in the weblog plugin? I forget.

Oh boy, here it comes...

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Author: Seth Dillingham

Date:5/16/2002

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# 2086

RE: Greg Pierce on Weblog Calendars

On 5/16/02, Brian Carnell said:

>True. Create a Custom Field called Weblog and assign each weblog message
>the name of the weblog(s) it is posted to.

My index.rss file is created from posts to the weblog, but it uses an AQP. Since I only bother with custom field data in items I'm going to publish, I've set up the AQP to search for any value in the custom fields and then return only the last N messages.

Seth

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